Curse

mushi · Jun 02, 2006, 09:26 PM // 21:26

I'd like to see Anet actually make farming 55 in UW harder than it is.

i don't really want 55 farming as a whole nurfed, just this particular run. Simply because it's impossible to find a group to UW. UW on the whole is way better than fow, it's just impossible to get a group there because of the dual farming.

So why not just make the ataxe/nightmares steal health?

What i'd like to see is (my personal prefrence):

Ataxes all pull in groups of 3
Each Atax can use a monster only skill that steals 52HP once the atax is below 50% health

And if they do nurf 55 uw, i really do think they should increase ecto drops.

Arkantos · Jun 02, 2006, 09:30 PM // 21:30

a warrior using a necro based skill?

/notsigned

In ToA I always see people doing UW groups...if they make attaxes steal health, not many 55's would go there, but then you'd get trappers to be the best at farming UW. Down with one way, up with another.

mushi · Jun 02, 2006, 09:38 PM // 21:38

Make the things warrior/necros then >.> :P

BrotherGilburt · Jun 02, 2006, 10:13 PM // 22:13

I personally don't want to see it nerfed. The ataxes are warriors there for they shouldn't steal health. Few or no creatures have a secondary profession so they should NOT be made W/N's. I don't see why you would want to go down in a group for UW anyway. Most groups that go down fail pretty fast. Ataxes have 300 damage attacks, they kill tanks in seconds unless they have protective spirit. If they nerfed 55hp dualing then I would expect ecto prices to rise. Even if they did increase the drop rate.

Over all dualing UW is fair because ecto drops are very rare. Its not like the dualers are getting super rich. Also there is a non-55hp dual stratagy for monks and there 3 or 4 person ranger trapping party's. Even if 55hp dualing was nerfed people would still perfer to farm it with those. Over all I don't think there would be many more groups if 55hp solo/dualing was nerfed. No one would want to do it because it would still be to hard with groups. And those people that do choose to group farm wouldn't be likely to make it far. It would be even harder to group farm it if the ataxes could steal health which they shouldn't be doing anyway.

/notsigned

Brother Gilburt

yaxattax · Jun 03, 2006, 05:27 AM // 05:27

Of course you don't want to see it nerfed, you probably farm it silly every day. The game was never meant to be solo'ed or duoed for that matter, and 3/4 ranger trap teams is better than solo/duo farms of the UW. Also a ranger trap team still don't have it that great while farming. ANET already tried to nerf 55 farming, what do you think the soddin' nightmares were for. They can't go and nurf spellbreaker just for that because it'd have too big an impact on the game. So to combat UW farming if you can't chaneg a skill that will affect everyone, surely you can give a monster a secondary profession instead. So what if " few or no creature have secondary professions " if it fixes what can only be considered as a problem then it's a good thing.

B Ephekt · Jun 03, 2006, 05:58 AM // 05:58

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Originally Posted by yaxattax

ANET already tried to nerf 55 farming, what do you think the soddin' nightmares were for.

I seriously doubt they ever intended to completely stop it, because they did a pretty crappy job if that was the case. The Nightmares have low health intentionally... I'm pretty sure the idea was only to make it slightly harder, and prevent botting.

Also, I've seen lots of UW groups forming in ToA, I've even switched out armors and went heal/bond them a few times. I agree that it's not as popular as FoW, but you can always MAKE a party if you don't see one forming.

VGJustice · Jun 03, 2006, 06:02 AM // 06:02

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Originally Posted by B Ephekt

I seriously doubt they ever intended to completely stop it, because they did a pretty crappy job if that was the case. The Nightmares have low health intentionally... I'm pretty sure the idea was only to make it slightly harder, and prevent botting.

You've got the right idea. As long as it's a player behind the controlls, I don't care how many hours you spend farming. I just have a problem with botters.

Chicken Ftw · Jun 03, 2006, 06:10 AM // 06:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by mushi

I'd like to see Anet actually make farming 55 in UW harder than it is.

i don't really want 55 farming as a whole nurfed, just this particular run. Simply because it's impossible to find a group to UW. UW on the whole is way better than fow, it's just impossible to get a group there because of the dual farming.

So why not just make the ataxe/nightmares steal health?

What i'd like to see is (my personal prefrence):

Ataxes all pull in groups of 3
Each Atax can use a monster only skill that steals 52HP once the atax is below 50% health

And if they do nurf 55 uw, i really do think they should increase ecto drops.

Let's see... standing around earlier, found two trap groups and one balanced... impossible to find one? Nah...

Just a guess here, but you don't play a 55, do you? So basically... your whole reasoning is you want more ecto for you, less for people who run a legit build?

Pandora's box · Jun 03, 2006, 11:17 AM // 11:17

There is a much better way to accomplish this and I wonder why Arenanet never made it work so: increase the + % bonus on killing creatures.

55 monks know that if they die the 15% penalty is calculated from their base hitpoints (before substracting the -life penalties on armour). When a bonus would be calculated the same, than ever kill on UW would gain like 5 hitpoints. Making the whole build fail after 20-30 kills...

mushi · Jun 03, 2006, 12:19 PM // 12:19

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Originally Posted by Chicken Ftw

Let's see... standing around earlier, found two trap groups and one balanced... impossible to find one? Nah...

Just a guess here, but you don't play a 55, do you? So basically... your whole reasoning is you want more ecto for you, less for people who run a legit build?

I actually do run a 55 build. :/

Wickie · Jun 03, 2006, 12:30 PM // 12:30

55hp UW solo?
easy... my mesmer has 1.5M xp. only by soloing from the start it was ascenden.
its fun and kjewl. but better dont do it on a laggy day xD

IW MESMERS FTW